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Amazing work @Badwolf :) So glad you're making progress!
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Steve wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 3:34 pm Amazing work @Badwolf :) So glad you're making progress!
Thanks, Steve!

Unfortunately I just discovered another design boo-boo which torpedoes this batch of boards, though.

I was scratching my head as to why the full 64MB could pass the memory tests with YAARTTT, but then everything would go to custard when I tried to add AltRAM: I've inadvertently put a byte 3 line to the byte 4 port of one of the memory chips (and vice versa)! :|

Basically with D23 and D31 swapped, word and longword writes will succeed fine but byte writes to either byte 3 or byte 4 of the port will fail as it will be latching one line from the other byte instead. YAARTT only ever performs word writes, so this wasn't a problem.

Bah!

I hope I can cut these two traces and patchwire this board for continued dev, but with three patch wires on the board already, I think it's going to need a respin before I get a release version.

Damn and blast.

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I feel your pain there!

We need a group hug smiley. But I guess this one will just have to do.. :chairsmack:
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exxos wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 2:50 pm I feel your pain there!

We need a group hug smiley. But I guess this one will just have to do.. :chairsmack:
I thought you'd added this one :awwww: for these situations?
:wink: :lol: :roll: :hide: :fire: :fire: :fire:
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JezC wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 4:22 pm
exxos wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 2:50 pm We need a group hug smiley. But I guess this one will just have to do.. :chairsmack:
I thought you'd added this one :awwww: for these situations?
It's interesting how Chris' mind goes straight to the chair whack, ain't it? :lol:

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PS: here's the oopsie.

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Badwolf wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 4:24 pm It's interesting how Chris' mind goes straight to the chair whack, ain't it? :lol:

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Also, if you read TF's reply to my post on his general letter topic, that puts it in a totally different light! :lol:
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JezC wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 4:26 pm Also, if you read TF's reply to my post on his general letter topic, that puts it in a totally different light! :lol:
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Badwolf wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 4:29 pm
JezC wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 4:26 pm Also, if you read TF's reply to my post on his general letter topic, that puts it in a totally different light! :lol:
:twisted:
And then the latest response to that from @exxos :hide:

General question: does :hide: invalidate the :chairsmack: smilie?
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JezC wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:07 pm General question: does :hide: invalidate the :chairsmack: smilie?
Nope.. You get hit over the head with the chair your under..


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OK, my shonky design confirmed.

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(All these at 16MHz)

Now, how fast can we get this to go..?

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DFB1 Open source 50MHz 030 and TT-RAM accelerator for the Falcon
DSTB1 Open source 16Mhz 68k and AltRAM accelerator for the ST
Smalliermouse ST-optimised USB mouse adapter based on SmallyMouse2
FrontBench The Frontier: Elite 2 intro as a benchmark
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