A600 CPU adapter (PLCC to DIP64)

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Re: A600 CPU adapter (PLCC to DIP64)

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...and the TF534 boots DiagROM attached to the adapter. At least some of the time. Quite often it freezes at:

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- Checking for A3000/A4000 Motherboardmemory
And the keyboard freaks out and does not work. Could be that my keyboard has given up, as well. Will check that later :)
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Re: A600 CPU adapter (PLCC to DIP64)

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DiagROM works with mouse, at least You can navigate menu..
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Re: A600 CPU adapter (PLCC to DIP64)

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8 Bit Dreams wrote: Sun Mar 24, 2019 10:52 pm DiagROM works with mouse, at least You can navigate menu..
Yeah, I alternated between using the mouse and the serial connection. I’ll test the keyboard without the adapter installed tomorrow. It worked great a week ago, but it’s been connected and disconnected a number of times since then.
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Re: A600 CPU adapter (PLCC to DIP64)

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BTW, does anyone know if the positions of the CPU, ROM and hard drive mounting holes differ between different revisions of the A600? I'm thinking about how to attach the adapter in a more secure way.
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Re: A600 CPU adapter (PLCC to DIP64)

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kludge wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 7:57 am BTW, does anyone know if the positions of the CPU, ROM and hard drive mounting holes differ between different revisions of the A600? I'm thinking about how to attach the adapter in a more secure way.
According to
http://amiga.resource.cx/mod/a600.html
No CPU/rom/HDD holes are all in same position
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Re: A600 CPU adapter (PLCC to DIP64)

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8 Bit Dreams wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:54 am According to
http://amiga.resource.cx/mod/a600.html
No CPU/rom/HDD holes are all in same position
Thanks! I took the four images and layered them with some transparency and it sure looks like they didn't move.
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Re: A600 CPU adapter (PLCC to DIP64)

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I'm getting the same issues on the A600 with the adapter as on the A500 now... As in DiagROM works well, but KS 3.1 and 3.1.4 does not.

Makes me think the adapter is all good.
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Re: A600 CPU adapter (PLCC to DIP64)

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You could measure just using a caliper or even taking a design from thingiverse and measure the stl file. :)
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Re: A600 CPU adapter (PLCC to DIP64)

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arananet wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2019 12:01 am You could measure just using a caliper or even taking a design from thingiverse and measure the stl file. :)
Sounds too easy, must be a trap.

Regarding using the ROM socket as a mounting point for the adapter... The height is a problem... Put machined pin legs in the socket and measured across a PLCC socket stuck on the CPU and they are not the same height. I also checked the two kinds of PLCC socket I have, and they are different heights as well.

I suppose you could add an extra PCB between the PLCC socket and the adapter, but it wouldn’t be pretty.

Pity. I had plans of integrating a Diagrom on the board 😄
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Re: A600 CPU adapter (PLCC to DIP64)

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Proof of concept:
Received an Adapter from user Kludge, and tested it on an A6oo.. well.. actually it's A3oo...
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Fired it up and....what can i say....it works!!!
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Need to admit, im getting freezes at the moment, and this can be due several reasons:
1. my a6oo isnt in best shape (board was very damaged with leaked cap acid)
2. Adapter is a bit wobbly, we need to relocate some traces, do a hole for a screw and figure out how to make it more stable
3. Maybe resistors on the Adaprer have wrong values, need to experiment with this, but hey! Its booting on full speed with proper ram configuration! I like this one!!!
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