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kludge’s TF534 build
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Re: kludge’s TF534 build
I might just have to source at least one 030 with MMU to compare then. I'll have to see it to believe it
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Re: kludge’s TF534 build
You shouldn't technically have to. I haven't tested the impact on IDE speed using other methods (all MMU equipped CPUs here), but using a program like skick to remap kickstart to RAM should have the same effect. Some of these work without requiring an MMU.
Re: kludge’s TF534 build
Fair point, I haven't really tried skick. You can also load an A600 scsi.device in ram for a modest IDE speed increase.
Re: kludge’s TF534 build
Thanks, guys. I'll play around with it in the coming days to work out if I feel confident selling a TF534 without a MMU capable CPU on it.
What's a good program/game/demo to keep running to stress test it a bit? TestKit? Frontier? Some mandelbrot generator? (The whole construction I mean, not the IDE)
A kludge is a workaround or quick-and-dirty solution that is clumsy, inelegant, inefficient, difficult to extend and hard to maintain.
My lack of focus:
[ 4 * Amiga 500 ][ Amiga 500+ ][ 2 * Amiga 600 ][ A1200 ][ Amiga 2000 w/ A2386 ][ Amiga 4000/030 w/ CyberVision 64 3D, FastLane SCSI Z3 ][ CD32 ][ VIC-20 ][ 4 * C64 Breadbin ][ 5 * C64C ][ 2 * C128 ][ C128D ][ C64 DTV ][ Mac Classic ][ Mac Classic II ][ Mac Colour Classic ]
My lack of focus:
[ 4 * Amiga 500 ][ Amiga 500+ ][ 2 * Amiga 600 ][ A1200 ][ Amiga 2000 w/ A2386 ][ Amiga 4000/030 w/ CyberVision 64 3D, FastLane SCSI Z3 ][ CD32 ][ VIC-20 ][ 4 * C64 Breadbin ][ 5 * C64C ][ 2 * C128 ][ C128D ][ C64 DTV ][ Mac Classic ][ Mac Classic II ][ Mac Colour Classic ]
Re: kludge’s TF534 build
Frontier will warm the CPU up a bit. If you can get it to run for a few hours without crashes, you should be good.
Re: kludge’s TF534 build
Good. It's quite fun to watch still. Maybe not for a few hours, though
A kludge is a workaround or quick-and-dirty solution that is clumsy, inelegant, inefficient, difficult to extend and hard to maintain.
My lack of focus:
[ 4 * Amiga 500 ][ Amiga 500+ ][ 2 * Amiga 600 ][ A1200 ][ Amiga 2000 w/ A2386 ][ Amiga 4000/030 w/ CyberVision 64 3D, FastLane SCSI Z3 ][ CD32 ][ VIC-20 ][ 4 * C64 Breadbin ][ 5 * C64C ][ 2 * C128 ][ C128D ][ C64 DTV ][ Mac Classic ][ Mac Classic II ][ Mac Colour Classic ]
My lack of focus:
[ 4 * Amiga 500 ][ Amiga 500+ ][ 2 * Amiga 600 ][ A1200 ][ Amiga 2000 w/ A2386 ][ Amiga 4000/030 w/ CyberVision 64 3D, FastLane SCSI Z3 ][ CD32 ][ VIC-20 ][ 4 * C64 Breadbin ][ 5 * C64C ][ 2 * C128 ][ C128D ][ C64 DTV ][ Mac Classic ][ Mac Classic II ][ Mac Colour Classic ]
Re: kludge’s TF534 build
For anyone wondering (yeah right) the TF534 stopped recognizing IDE devices from one day to the next. I don’t have any spare cables so I’m waiting for a delivery to be able to investigate what’s wrong
Managed to repair a Fastlane SCSI Z3 in the meantime anyway
Managed to repair a Fastlane SCSI Z3 in the meantime anyway
A kludge is a workaround or quick-and-dirty solution that is clumsy, inelegant, inefficient, difficult to extend and hard to maintain.
My lack of focus:
[ 4 * Amiga 500 ][ Amiga 500+ ][ 2 * Amiga 600 ][ A1200 ][ Amiga 2000 w/ A2386 ][ Amiga 4000/030 w/ CyberVision 64 3D, FastLane SCSI Z3 ][ CD32 ][ VIC-20 ][ 4 * C64 Breadbin ][ 5 * C64C ][ 2 * C128 ][ C128D ][ C64 DTV ][ Mac Classic ][ Mac Classic II ][ Mac Colour Classic ]
My lack of focus:
[ 4 * Amiga 500 ][ Amiga 500+ ][ 2 * Amiga 600 ][ A1200 ][ Amiga 2000 w/ A2386 ][ Amiga 4000/030 w/ CyberVision 64 3D, FastLane SCSI Z3 ][ CD32 ][ VIC-20 ][ 4 * C64 Breadbin ][ 5 * C64C ][ 2 * C128 ][ C128D ][ C64 DTV ][ Mac Classic ][ Mac Classic II ][ Mac Colour Classic ]
Re: kludge’s TF534 build
I just discovered that my 10uF 1206 capacitors are X5R and not X7R... But that should only be temperature related, and I'm not sure that that would make a difference after running the board for less than an hour. X5R should tolerate 85°C, so I would think that they should be ok to use. I will have to check the 0.1uF 1206 cap. I think I just took something that I had laying around at the moment.
(This project has been put on hold for a while, but I'm slowly working myself back to it. Amongst other things I've bought an Amiga CD32 that I discovered was an NTSC one, so I've started to collect information and components for converting it to PAL...)
(This project has been put on hold for a while, but I'm slowly working myself back to it. Amongst other things I've bought an Amiga CD32 that I discovered was an NTSC one, so I've started to collect information and components for converting it to PAL...)
A kludge is a workaround or quick-and-dirty solution that is clumsy, inelegant, inefficient, difficult to extend and hard to maintain.
My lack of focus:
[ 4 * Amiga 500 ][ Amiga 500+ ][ 2 * Amiga 600 ][ A1200 ][ Amiga 2000 w/ A2386 ][ Amiga 4000/030 w/ CyberVision 64 3D, FastLane SCSI Z3 ][ CD32 ][ VIC-20 ][ 4 * C64 Breadbin ][ 5 * C64C ][ 2 * C128 ][ C128D ][ C64 DTV ][ Mac Classic ][ Mac Classic II ][ Mac Colour Classic ]
My lack of focus:
[ 4 * Amiga 500 ][ Amiga 500+ ][ 2 * Amiga 600 ][ A1200 ][ Amiga 2000 w/ A2386 ][ Amiga 4000/030 w/ CyberVision 64 3D, FastLane SCSI Z3 ][ CD32 ][ VIC-20 ][ 4 * C64 Breadbin ][ 5 * C64C ][ 2 * C128 ][ C128D ][ C64 DTV ][ Mac Classic ][ Mac Classic II ][ Mac Colour Classic ]
Re: kludge’s TF534 build
So I've dug myself down to the TF534 build once again, and had to backtrack some because I had forgotten exactly what the behaviour was.
Everything seems to work just fine except for the IDE. I've tried about eight different CF cards and a mSATA to IDE adapter. Neither Workbench nor DiagROM finds any of them and just reports that no disk was found. With one CD card and the mSATA to IDE adapter DiagROM just freezes and waits for something while trying to detect the drive.
I'm leaning towards a bad solder connection somewhere. A bit weird as at least one of the CF cards worked for a while, but I've seen weirder.
I've just got to decide if I'm going to reflow this board or build another TF534 and then get back to this at a later date.
Everything seems to work just fine except for the IDE. I've tried about eight different CF cards and a mSATA to IDE adapter. Neither Workbench nor DiagROM finds any of them and just reports that no disk was found. With one CD card and the mSATA to IDE adapter DiagROM just freezes and waits for something while trying to detect the drive.
I'm leaning towards a bad solder connection somewhere. A bit weird as at least one of the CF cards worked for a while, but I've seen weirder.
I've just got to decide if I'm going to reflow this board or build another TF534 and then get back to this at a later date.
A kludge is a workaround or quick-and-dirty solution that is clumsy, inelegant, inefficient, difficult to extend and hard to maintain.
My lack of focus:
[ 4 * Amiga 500 ][ Amiga 500+ ][ 2 * Amiga 600 ][ A1200 ][ Amiga 2000 w/ A2386 ][ Amiga 4000/030 w/ CyberVision 64 3D, FastLane SCSI Z3 ][ CD32 ][ VIC-20 ][ 4 * C64 Breadbin ][ 5 * C64C ][ 2 * C128 ][ C128D ][ C64 DTV ][ Mac Classic ][ Mac Classic II ][ Mac Colour Classic ]
My lack of focus:
[ 4 * Amiga 500 ][ Amiga 500+ ][ 2 * Amiga 600 ][ A1200 ][ Amiga 2000 w/ A2386 ][ Amiga 4000/030 w/ CyberVision 64 3D, FastLane SCSI Z3 ][ CD32 ][ VIC-20 ][ 4 * C64 Breadbin ][ 5 * C64C ][ 2 * C128 ][ C128D ][ C64 DTV ][ Mac Classic ][ Mac Classic II ][ Mac Colour Classic ]